The Facts: 
March, 2002:  Three women are found shot to death over a three week period on the streets of Beacon Hill, a tony Boston neighborhood. All have a bloody numeral '3' painted on their foreheads. The victims seem to have no connection to each other. Forensic examination and witness accounts provide few leads.

The Victims:
Victim #1:  Leigh Chasa, age 30, found murdered on 3-5-02. Owner of a Beacon Hill coffee shop with her husband, Mike Chasa. Mother of a five-year old daughter.

Victim #2:  Clotilde Eames, age 25, found murdered on 3-14-02. Single graduate student at Finchley College. Works as a research assistant to a Classics Scholar, Professor Putnam Cowley.

Victim #3:  Dr. Amy Tropos, age 34, found murdered on 3-21-02. Family practice physician at Boston General Hospital. Married to neurologist Dr. Derek Douglas.

Questions I've pondered three murders within three weeks, with the numeral '3' painted on each victim? Serial killer? No further murders were committed, so I'm not so sure. What do you think?

I can't wait either Larry!

This is a fantastic idea, especially for us Nigelites. XD Thanks for the treat!

This is a fantastic idea, especially for us Nigelites. XD Thanks for the treat!

Intersting.... I cant wait Nigel and all!

Great idea "Steve"! I think it will be a huge hit!

Is this case related to anything in the beginning of the episode tonight, say the handgun found with the dead one-armed man?

What if it's an "M" instead of a 3?

"3" might be indicative of the month in which all three murders occurred (March = 3)

I'll be back

Nigel, I think asking the public for their input is an interesting idea. I'll be watching to see if it works.

Good luck.

Isn't this one of those typical textbook cases?

Perhaps it is for the letter C. It is revenge against Campus Crusade for Christ.

Love the slashdot link - nice touch!

i think it has something to do with the religious denomonation of the women.

This is great, Nigel! And on several levels: With me being an armchair sleuth, murder mystery fan, fan of CJ, wishing to be an actor, as well as a scientist and loving anything that deals in clues, this has to be one of the best uses of the internet, I've ever seen!

I also noticed several things that the murders did have in common: For example the #3 and that the murders were committed in March (as stated by poster Steven Cohen); it's also interesting to note how early in the morning the murders were committed (although the third was committed, earlier than the other two.) The placement of the bodies might be a clue, as well. Take a look how the arms were placed. I agree with poster Paul, the letter C is a big clue. And are these murders related to events on tonight's CJ?

As Douglas McArthur was fond of saying (sorry, I'm have a Bachelor's in History): "I shall return."

the person that killed the women had to be right handed because they were all shot on the right side.

Could be a messed up curly-q

Great idea! Can't wait to read more!

Great idea! Can't wait to read more!

I agree with Stephen Cohen above, 3 might indicate the month they all died in or an "M" for March. I'm curious of why these three women. One was a coffee house owner, a research assistant, and a physician. Did these three women know the killer?

this happened in the third month...the three of them killed...inthe trinity...

he will kill again starting in march of this year (three years after it originally happened)...I have more, but not for right now...I want to work it o ut in MY LJ first then bring it over here, it is a much more complicated dealing witht eh significance of the number three...

I agree with the 3 for March...I'll have to look further before I decide something else.

Great CJ tonight.. can't wait to dig into those!

Tonya, just a correction - The victims were shot on the left side of the body...Sorry, I just noticed this and thought I should comment.

Anyways, great idea...I will definitely be back...

Tonya, just a correction - The victims were shot on the left side of the body...Sorry, I just noticed this and thought I should comment.

Anyways, great idea...I will definitely be back...

Vic #1's mouth is open in one pic, closed in the second

D. is that you?

Maybe that is a kanji and not a numeral 3. It's pretty stylish for a number 3, so if it is a numeral 3, the suspect might be an art director or a graphic designer.

But seriously, the number three is pretty significant in numerology, connoting perfection or completion. Maybe the killer is trying to send some kind of religious or cultic message with this M.O.

D. is that you?

Maybe that is a kanji and not a numeral 3. It's pretty stylish for a number 3, so if it is a numeral 3, the suspect might be an art director or a graphic designer.

But seriously, the number three is pretty significant in numerology, connoting perfection or completion. Maybe the killer is trying to send some kind of religious or cultic message with this M.O.

There's something not sitting right with me about your suspects. You have three suspects for three connected murder but can't seem to connect any suspect to more than one victim.

I agree with the above posters that the number 3 could stand for the month, but that seems too obvious.

3 seems to be a theme though. It's possible that his pattern will turn up in threes again.

Neither eyewitness is very reliable.

I also noticed that their names kinda sounded like the Moerae:
http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/MOERAE.html

It could be it is not a serial killer, but someone who wanted one of the three in particular dead, but killed two random people to make is look like the work of a serial killer.

It could be it is not a serial killer, but someone who wanted one of the three in particular dead, but killed two random people to make is look like the work of a serial killer.

Mr. Fowles: I don't recognize your name, so you'd have to give me more to go on. :)

As for what you said, the Japanese equivalent of a three-ish shape would be the character "Ro". I don't think this is the case, however... if anything this seems to be religious in nature to me (the holy Trinity and all that, possible representation of Stigmata on Chasa's wrist--the proper place, rather than the commonly-seen palm. I don't think it was an accident that bloody dots appear on only one of the victims' skin).

Going with my theory on the names being like those of the Three Fates, I think the women might not have known the killer at all. He/she could have easily found their names in a phonebook and stalked them until opportunity struck.

I also think Prof. Putnam Cowley should be looked at more closely. Being a professor of ancient Greek philosophy he probably studied ancient Greek culture and religiong seeing as how many of the ancient Greek philosophies were tied in with their everyday lives. Therefore he would know of the Moerae and see the connection between Clotilde Eames' name and that of one of the Fates: Clotho.

Interesting point, Beck. Their names do resemble the three aspects of fate: Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos. And the ages do fit the respective aspect. Clotho was the youngest, followed by Lachesis and then Atropos. If the killer was so meticulous as to find out their names and ages, maybe it was more then random bloodshed. Or maybe we're reading too much into it.

Not to mention Clotilde Eames was carrying a textbook entitled "The Moerae". Coincidence? I think not.

Great idea. I'll definitely be back soon too.

There's just too many links for it to be a coincidence.

Zoglarfy, you may be right. They were definitely stalked at the least.

Can't wait for the lab reports tomorrow.

Sorry D.!

It looks like the Fates angle offers the most complete connection so far. But doesn't it kind of move away from religious significance in the number 3? I guess it would be worth checking what wider numerological significance the three has.

Maybe the 3 just means that there are three. 3 Fates. 3 murders. Maybe the killer thinks three is his/her luck number and by writing it on the bodies no one will catch him/her.

If we knew exactly why all killers killed, there wouldn't be any killers, now would there?

Nestor Pope could have developed a “thing” for Clotilde after seeing her in the library. Possibly he approached her and was rebuffed, which could lead to sexually aggressive feelings. (He was convicted of serial rape and assault.) Since we was supposedly self-medicating and wasn't able to perform, it's possible he wasn't able to rape, only assault/kill. He supposedly educated himself and may have noticed the similarity of her name to one of the Fates. (Good catch, Beck, had no clue myself). He then looked for two other women with names similar to the other two Fates, killed one of the others first, then Clotilde, (he may have left the book about the Fates with her body, we can't assume it was hers), then killed the third. Quite a twist, getting control by killing those who control Man's fate. (Or I could be totally and completely wrong. Isn't this fun?!?!?)

Nestor Pope could have developed a “thing” for Clotilde after seeing her in the library. Possibly he approached her and was rebuffed, which could lead to sexually aggressive feelings. (He was convicted of serial rape and assault.) Since we was supposedly self-medicating and wasn't able to perform, it's possible he wasn't able to rape, only assault/kill. He supposedly educated himself and may have noticed the similarity of her name to one of the Fates. (Good catch, Beck, had no clue myself). He then looked for two other women with names similar to the other two Fates, killed one of the others first, then Clotilde, (he may have left the book about the Fates with her body, we can't assume it was hers), then killed the third. Quite a twist, getting control by killing those who control Man's fate. (Or I could be totally and completely wrong. Isn't this fun?!?!?)

I still think it could be Prof. Cowley. Maybe he's trying to kill off "The Fates" in order to escape his own fate: death

Holy shit its (the blog) actually here!!!

Beck, I agree Prof. Crowley, maybe. Being a specialist in ancient Greek Philosophy, he would certainly know about the Fates, but would his health allow him to do all of this with lung cancer? (Even if he responded well to the treatment.)Also, he called her cell from his apartment 15 to 45 minutes after her death. It's possible, since he lives in the same area, but I just don't see him doing it. No motive, unless you think that he would actually kill three people in the name of symbolism.

I looked up the number three in my Numerology handbook and it said that 3 had dual personalitis. Myabe the old Prof. has Multiple Personality Disorder.

This is great.Obviously the 3 is a key to solving the cold case.Questions arise.Is the 3 signifying the # of his or her victims or just the murderers favorite number.It did stop at three.maybe three is the number of murders you can commit without making too many mistakes to get caught!need more info.Was there evidence of sex,was the same method used in each murder.there's always a pattern and the only reason to stop IS.1 you got busted for something else and you're doing time.2.One of the murders is a real one and the other 2 are to make it seem like a serial killer to cover up the initial murder

Beck-Well, if I remember my College days, most of my professors didn't even have one personality.

I still don't know what to make of the "3", since I'm not convinced it is a "3". What else it may be, I don't know.

Were you able to make anything of the "Apollo and Diana" book, in terms of having any relevence?

very interesting,will analize It's a cold case,but a hot subject.Tell me more

is this real? lol

btw Nigel....I love you omg!

Maybe the guy just suffered his third divorce and the women that he murdered resembled or had the same occupations as his exes.

Just an interesting addition, I did the numerology on the the names of the three victims and they came up 8, 6, and 7 respectively. Add those together and you get 21, and that and you get, that's right....3. According to the numerology definition, the 3 also has connotations for unfinished projects and lack of direction, with fears of the 3 personality being loss of youth and restriction.

The mathmatician Pythagoras also called three the perfect number because it represented the beginning, middle and end.

I think we are reading too hard into this. Let's look at the obvious facts: The killings were the same for all 3 women. The anger and violence did not increase with each murder which suggests the killer planned the murders out carefully. Each aspect had meaning which is why all 3 are highly similar. This also suggests the killer watched and stalked these women. The killer seemed to know thier routine and got them in ordinary activities. The women are not obviously linked in an apparent way but the spacing of the killings and almost ritualism of the murders suggests that they are linked to the killer.

The fact that victim #2 crawled 10 feet before she died implies that the killer waited until she died to scrawl the 3 and make sure she was dead. The killer most definately had a plan.

Not sure how they are linked but I will ponder it...

Even though she's not really reliable, Mrs. Krakowski's description of a dark-haired Latino man fits Luis Fuente. It's the only thing that connects a suspect to more than one woman.

i have a couple different thoughts. First, even though the police reports say the bodies had not appartently been moved, i find it curious that there are no blood splatter (patterns) behind the vics, especially with the docs car. 2nd. Ms. Eames, crawled 10ft after she was shot in the park, however, in crime scene pics she has no dirt under her nails with very little grass on her hands.
3rd. vic 1, has 3 blood dots on her wrist, which could be tied into the 3's.
lastly: i also find it interesting that the number 3 was placed over the vic's 3rd eye. i have more thoughts but i think this is getting long.

It could have been Mike Chasa - he murdered his wife, and the other 2 were just random victims he came across while he was out doing "pickups" in the weeks following the murder. They were killed to make it look like a serial killer.

What an innovative idea? This is not only creative but oh so interesting! I have downloaded the information and can't wait to get started solving this case.

Kudos to whom ever came up with idea. Just another reason why we absolutely love Crossing Jordan in my house!!! Go CJ go !!!!!!

Anyone notice that the morgue got the letter on feb 2nd? (02-02) he/she has a thing with sets of numbers, possibly another letter for febuary to come in, since he/she does things in 3's

going along with the fates angle, it said that atropos was the shortest of the fates, and coincidentally so is dr. tropos....

i also noticed that each woman had a hand draped over her stomach, im sure you all noticed that too, but what strikes me is that that hand has a ring and something around her wrist. it doesnt seem right that if clotilde crawled ten feet her purse would still be on her arm...

First and foremost, no one has mentioned an interesting thing about the number "3" connection. It has been 3 years since the murders in question. Is the killer saying he is about to kill again? Of course the other "3" references has been mentioned, third month, three women...three fates...yada yada yada....

I think I need a bit more time to go over the reports and the pictures...but wanted to point out that if the killer is still active....March will be 3 years......and he/she might well be getting ready to kill again.

dev
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/drnigeltownsend/

Someone mentioned that the "Apollo and Artemis" textbook may hold a clue, so here's a bit of info on them:

Apollo is one of the twelve deities of Olympus, the son of Zeus and Leto, and twin brother to Artemis/Diana. He is generally recognized as the god of light (or the sun), plague and healing, music, archery, and prophecy, especially at Delphi. Apollo is known also as Phoebus (or Phoibos) Apollo, Far-shooting Apollo, and Gold-bladed Apollo, among others.

The goddess Artemis played an intriguing role in Greek mythology and religion. She was known as the "Mistress of Animals" and the protectress of children, but she was also a huntress and the goddess who could bring death with her arrows. Myths such as the one about Niobe show Artemis as a strong willed and powerful goddess, a female who could punish injustices against the gods with ferocious and deadly accuracy.

Someone mentioned that the "Apollo and Artemis" textbook may hold a clue, so here's a bit of info on them:

Apollo is one of the twelve deities of Olympus, the son of Zeus and Leto, and twin brother to Artemis/Diana. He is generally recognized as the god of light (or the sun), plague and healing, music, archery, and prophecy, especially at Delphi. Apollo is known also as Phoebus (or Phoibos) Apollo, Far-shooting Apollo, and Gold-bladed Apollo, among others.

The goddess Artemis played an intriguing role in Greek mythology and religion. She was known as the "Mistress of Animals" and the protectress of children, but she was also a huntress and the goddess who could bring death with her arrows. Myths such as the one about Niobe show Artemis as a strong willed and powerful goddess, a female who could punish injustices against the gods with ferocious and deadly accuracy.

dev, no one mentioned that three year thing? i thought someone had already, lol, oops...

Someone mentioned that the "Apollo and Artemis" textbook may hold a clue, so here's a bit of info on them:

Apollo is one of the twelve deities of Olympus, the son of Zeus and Leto, and twin brother to Artemis/Diana. He is generally recognized as the god of light (or the sun), plague and healing, music, archery, and prophecy, especially at Delphi. Apollo is known also as Phoebus (or Phoibos) Apollo, Far-shooting Apollo, and Gold-bladed Apollo, among others.

The goddess Artemis played an intriguing role in Greek mythology and religion. She was known as the "Mistress of Animals" and the protectress of children, but she was also a huntress and the goddess who could bring death with her arrows. Myths such as the one about Niobe show Artemis as a strong willed and powerful goddess, a female who could punish injustices against the gods with ferocious and deadly accuracy.

Sterling...might have....I mean I was reading through this think like a long tailed cat trying to escape a room full of rocking chairs...lol...so maybe I missed it.

Also, I was noticing, Clotilde Eames (btw...nice touch...Steve played the demon Eames in a Charmed episode) seems to be the only victim to have "Shallow cut on back of neck".

Back with more later.

devisun
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/drnigeltownsend/

Just a small question. How does it come, that the 3 is always bloody? There was no sign of struggle, but if they were killed first, the cuts wouldn't bleed, would they?

All good ideas so far. I have a couple of thoughts to add to the mix here.
One, I find it interesting that there were no defensive wounds on any of the victims. Obviously, this means that they were caught off guard, but how did the killer know they would be there at that moment? Stalking...
Two, I think the women have to be connected in some way. What if they all went to the coffee shop and the killer saw them there? Since they are all in the same neighborhood, isn't this possible?
Thats all for now.

dev, yeah (noticed that coincidence along with amy having the same bday), i hope that when the autopsy reports come in we can see what made those cuts...

btvs.ats, i think that the 3s were drawn in the blood from the gunshot wound...

btvs.ats,

the number 3 wasn't carved into their heads, just painted there. The blood probably came for the gun shot wound.

Serena, defensive wound would be unlikely because of the weapon. How much defense would you really have against a gun? I do like your theory that the women are connected. Maybe the killer works someplace they all went. A Church? A gym? A school? Someplace he/she would be able to know their names.

On a side note. I think the killer is very likely to be male. Men tend to have handwriting that is more pointed. If you look at the 3 on the victims foreheads you can see that the 3 is quite pointy. It's a lose theory, but I'm gonna go with my gut here.

Beck, I agree that the killer is probably male. Besides the fact that the handwriting is pointed (good observation bty), most serial killers are men.

What could it possibly be?

What connects these women to each other is the fact that they were shot in their left chest, a 3 written on their forehead, nothing stolen, and the shell casting (9 mm). So we defiantly know that they were either shot with the same gun or a similar gun. What is also interesting is the fact that two of them showed no physical struggle maintaining a belief that they either knew the killer or were just shot randomly without knowledge. If they were shot randomly without knowledge they there might be a physical struggle to do something. So I am hypothesizing that victim 1 and 3 knew their killer. Another interesting fact is that 2nd victim struggled but yet was untouched. The cut in the back of her neck would be probably from her attacker coming from behind her and hitting her. Making her unconscious and unable to move. But if she was struggling perhaps the killer did not strike her hard enough so then she struggled. Hmm, thinking more into depth about the number 3 in relation to everything else. It could mean 3rd month, 3rd victims, 3rd weeks it could be related to something religious or astrological. Their own blood could possibly have written the three painted on their forehead. Thinking back to one of the books that the victims were carrying “Apollo and Artemis” it could/might connect us further into the depths of this mysterious murder. Looking at one of the posts by another person I was able to hypothesize an idea that could perchance relate to the murders. Quoting from Devisionn's post:
“Myths such as the one about Niobe show Artemis as a strong willed and powerful goddess, a female who could punish injustices against the gods with ferocious and deadly accuracy.”
Perhaps these women were doing something unjust and had to be dealt with? Perhaps this is someone who is fascinated with that aspect of the Greek religion. Perhaps this person is doing what “Artemis” or what any of the Greek gods would have done. Another thought also crossed my mind each victim was shot on the left side of their chest. It was assumed at one point the heart resided on that side, perhaps that's another clue?

Looking the suspects I don't think Rayleen is a murder victim unless she's working with someone else. She's 18 and more than likely does not have her own car. I live in Canada, I don't drive, but I'm guessing the tire tracks that were left behind could be made from an expensive tire? And also she apparently walked to the café. Luis Fuente could have possibly carried out an affair with victim #2 and she had him transferred because she felt she would loose her job due to inappropriate behaviour with Luis Fuente. And what really makes me ponder is what was Luis Fuente seeing a doctor for, what is his medical condiction? Nester Pope is also very interesting, as he has already killed someone and has educated himself (what has he read? Apollo and Artemis?) I was told once that if someone kills (example, a dog) what makes him or her from not killing again. When people are out of prison are they reborn or are they the same people just a bit different? Also the fact that the prostitute could not be found, she seems as if she's a mystery that is either alive or fictional. When were these people questioned? Was it after the month so that they could not continue or was it several weeks and months after?
I still think you should post a bit more info here, Nig. Perhaps if we knew a bit more info about the victims it could give us a better insight. Until then take care.

I think what you all are thinking, but I had a few questions that I think may warrant ivestigation...
What is the stain on Clotilde Eames' shirt? Looks like coffee. Could be a possible connection between her and Leigh Chasa.
I didn't like Mike Chasas story. He said his marrige was "rocky". When the reoprt said that Amber Mills had given a baby up for adoption, I thought maybe the "volotile exchange" between Leigh and Amber may have not been about money, but a baby. I'm not sure how this all ties into the threes and that, but it just stuck out for me.

What I wouldn't give for a map showing the victims houses, places of work, and general nieghborhood. *sigh*

Oh yes, and the three blood dots on Chasa's wrist. Perhaps the killer was checking for a pulse to make sure she was really dead.

Assuming the killer didn't use gloves, have the bodies been checked for finger prints? With all that blood I find it unlikely that there we no finger prints on the bodies, especially near or within the three on their heads.

If one tries the theory of only one of the murders being real and the others being diversions, it would suggest that the last murder was the real one. On the assumption that the murderer knew his true victim, it doesn't make sense to me that it would be the first or second as that would expose him to the authorities and thus make committing the following murders harder.

Also, the third scene was the only one that didn't have the bullet recovered. And it occurred significantly earlier than the previous 2.

This amount of premeditation (planning to kill 3 people ahead of time and if the first two were decoys, the scouting to find them ) would suggest a highly intelligent person.

If one tries the theory of only one of the murders being real and the others being diversions, it would suggest that the last murder was the real one. On the assumption that the murderer knew his true victim, it doesn't make sense to me that it would be the first or second as that would expose him to the authorities and thus make committing the following murders harder.

Also, the third scene was the only one that didn't have the bullet recovered. And it occurred significantly earlier than the previous 2.

This amount of premeditation (planning to kill 3 people ahead of time and if the first two were decoys, the scouting to find them ) would suggest a highly intelligent person.

I think I am going to be a bit patient and wait for the other things to be posted today....that should shed a whole lot of light on things we have been mulling around in our heads...

dev
(who'll definately be back later in the day...ya'll play nice.)

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/drnigeltownsend/

Oh, go all the way to the bottom of the page on cursive letters to view the Z.

I know what you mean Beck. I live in Canada and have only been to the states once. But getting back to Danielle. I don't think its her husband. I have a strong suspicion that its either one of the two male suspects. One has a medical history and also has confessed? and the other one is both a rapist and a killer. The only thing thats stopping him from rapping is those herbal things that he's taking. But also what interest me is the fact that he's improving his education by himself. Most men, not trying to generalize or anything, committ to religion while they are in jail (sometimes the easiest way out) and watching a couple of episodes here and there just makes me think back to another case where an inmate kills a woman because she had sex with an immate (or something like that). Perhaps Mr. Pope read something interesting and it sunk into his head (and it can happen my uncle has been brainwashed into a cult) and he's taken the text literally. Thats why it would be nice if they could provide more indepth info. But I just thought of something and if someone who's a car person could answer can a '90 Toyota Camry Sedan drive with Michelin MXM4 tires?

Hmm the shells, bullets and the gun. Has any of the suspects been searched (as in house, body, or property??)

Hmm the shells, bullets and the gun. Has any of the suspects been searched (as in house, body, or property??)

Do the dates of death relate any way to astrology. We have already stated that it was 3rd month of the year, 3 weeks, and 3 victims. Do the dates have any meaning... anyone? Just trying to pick the bone a bit deeper... :D

I think the new reformed Mr. Pope might have an idea and should be asked if he's read Apolo and Artemis book and if so what does the number three mean. He did study at the same library as with one of the victims and did see her.

Sorry, posts got messed up on my end. Anyway, I've been reading all the comments regarding the "3" and I agree with a previous poster that I'm still not convinced it IS a #3. My first thought when I saw the picture was that it was a cursive "Z". I'm still leaning towards that. Here's a link to view a cursive "Z"...go all the way to the bottom of the page to see it.

http://www.2020site.org/writing/cursive-letters.html

All for the number of three...

Neptune
This planet gives us the supersensory, opens doors to mystical experience and the transcendental. On this level it is hard to discern where perception moves into deception, illusion and false appearances, and so Neptune is associated with all of these, with drugs and all kinds of pseudo-realities.
Sign equivalent: Pisces
Orbit from Sun: 4'504'300'000 km
Period: 165 Years

The symbol is a pitch for with three points?

Water
People with a strongly emphasized water element are feeling types and are very sensitive. Their imaginative and emotional lives are deep and rich.
Water signs: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces
3rd House – Communication
The third house and any planets occupying it tell us of our siblings, the manner in which we communicate on an everyday level and the relationships which determine our daily life.

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm

All for the number of three...

Neptune
This planet gives us the supersensory, opens doors to mystical experience and the transcendental. On this level it is hard to discern where perception moves into deception, illusion and false appearances, and so Neptune is associated with all of these, with drugs and all kinds of pseudo-realities.
Sign equivalent: Pisces
Orbit from Sun: 4'504'300'000 km
Period: 165 Years

The symbol is a pitch for with three points?

Water
People with a strongly emphasized water element are feeling types and are very sensitive. Their imaginative and emotional lives are deep and rich.
Water signs: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces
3rd House – Communication
The third house and any planets occupying it tell us of our siblings, the manner in which we communicate on an everyday level and the relationships which determine our daily life.

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm

Argh I keep on forgetting my name, sorry. All the blanks are from me.

Argh I keep on forgetting my name, sorry. All the blanks are from me.

I feel that the symbol on the forehead is a three just because and looking at that websit mentioned above. The end of the letter would have been looped up and not straight down.

I feel that the symbol on the forehead is a three just because and looking at that websit mentioned above. The end of the letter would have been looped up and not straight down.

I feel that the symbol on the top of the head is a three just because if it were a z the end of the letter would have been looped up and not straight towards the nose. There was a movie I can't remember the title, argh I can't even remember the actors and actresses. But its about this person who is widowed and can see ghosts and theres a number system that they use at the number three looks to be the same as that one...

I feel that the symbol on the top of the head is a three just because if it were a z the end of the letter would have been looped up and not straight towards the nose. There was a movie I can't remember the title, argh I can't even remember the actors and actresses. But its about this person who is widowed and can see ghosts and theres a number system that they use at the number three looks to be the same as that one...

I think one thing we aren't talking about is why send the letter now? What purpose does it serve? Has it been checked for DNA/prints? Hm....

Nigel..great idea, i'm looking forward to hearing the conclusion...were there any fingerprints at the sceen? like in the number3 itself? two of the eye witnesses said they heard a gun shot and then a car speed away...how long after the shot that killed her to the time the number was placed and dried?

I think that it's a warning that more killings are going to happen. In March. 3 years later...3rd month...3 more dead.

it seems a little odd of shooting the same place on the body on different occassions unless the killer was in close proxemity to the victim. also the wounds look as though they were shot in a downward angle...which puts the suspect as taller than all the victims.

the 3rd deadly sin is anger and when we are angry we feel rightous, maybe this has something to do with the 3...

Here's an odd one. The "3" on their heads also looks like a Quarter Rest in music notation.

Here's an odd one. The "3" on their heads also looks like a Quarter Rest in music notation.

Here's an odd one. The "3" on their heads also looks like a Quarter Rest in music notation.

Here's an odd one. The "3" on their heads also looks like a Quarter Rest in music notation.

Here's an odd one. The "3" on their heads also looks like a Quarter Rest in music notation.

Here's an odd one. The "3" on their heads also looks like a Quarter Rest in music notation.

Could all the "3's" be a red herring?

I think everyone is overly hooked up on the significance of the #3. Not that it has no importance, but what about examining some of the other strange and unexplained evidence. What really sticks out for me is the auto apholstry foam bits found on Dr AMy's neck. Where did they come from? It is also interesting that the bullet was never recovered from her crime scene, yet the casing was? did the killer find it after he shot her and take it? Or did it just get lost down a storm drain?

idk if someone has said this......i didnt read everything but....i thought it was odd that no one could confirm the first victims husbands whereabouts.....i mean he did say he was out shopping that his wife told him to....but at the very end of the report it said that it wasnt cofirmed. .....

i also thought it was odd....in the report it said dr.amy tropos got a call from the hospital claiming it was an emergency....but then it said that she got there...examined the patient adn left by midnight.....if it was an emergency i think of adn trisectecomony...(even though im sure it doent exist)..or something else dramatic like that...not a simple examination that by the way any nurse or any other doctor could do..

Wow, I just found the time to check this out and so far I am addicted. Very interesting about the Number 3, but do agree we may be looking too much at that and not enough at everything else. I have not had the chance to read over everything yet. Will be back later with more. Loving this.

i am beginning to wonder if the first two victims were gardners. this would explain the coffee grounds under their finger nails. coffee grounds are good for the soil and help flowers grow. if there is a common coffee shop that all three women go to it may be benifical to check into the employees that were on staff at the shop. this would allow for possible connections to be found between the victims.

i was also wondering if we had any clue as to an approximate range the shofts were fired from. with the high accuracy the killer is either a trained shot or was at a close range the victims. since the entry wounds are relatively small, i would gather that the shots were close range. this is just something to ponder and you may help narrow the suspect field down to those who do and do not know how to shoot a gun. just a thought.

Wow, I just found the time to check this out and so far I am addicted. Very interesting about the Number 3, but do agree we may be looking too much at that and not enough at everything else. I have not had the chance to read over everything yet. Will be back later with more. Loving this.

Ok, looking into the Chasa case. The eyewitness Danny Gould said he hearda loud sound from the direction of the cafe. Even though he thought it may be a car backfiring, after then seeing a car speed away don't you think he would have went to check it out. This was at 5:40am, and Rayleen Mills did not find the body until 7:00am. I don't know, just something to think about.

Ok, looking into the Chasa case. The eyewitness Danny Gould said he hearda loud sound from the direction of the cafe. Even though he thought it may be a car backfiring, after then seeing a car speed away don't you think he would have went to check it out. This was at 5:40am, and Rayleen Mills did not find the body until 7:00am. I don't know, just something to think about.

okay so the number three was confirmed to have been writtten in pig's blood...how is that possible? does the murderer carry around a vile of pig blood?

also, i think that they said the envelope was checked for prints and DNA from potential saliva but their results were inconclusive.

perhaps the murderer didn't like successful women? that was my first thought when trying to connect all three. like they all had jobs or were going to school. prehaps that didn't rest well with the murderer...

Checking into the background of Rayleen about her past with the adoption and the dr who delivered the baby and the social worker who conviced may be a possible link between her and the dr. the trace evidence that links the victims would be food stains coffee and ketchup. the link between those and a food service worker like the fired employee. Did any of the vitcims frequent the cafe where they may have been served by Rayleen. Victims may have not been random but this may be personal.

Hi,
What about '3' as in 'will start killing in march of the year - 3 people - will continue to kill 3 further people every 3rd month after 3 years of having a rest, till you will kill me' or something?
Greets from Germany,
Sandra

Hi,
What about '3' as in 'will start killing in march of the year - 3 people - will continue to kill 3 further people every 3rd month after 3 years of having a rest, till you will kill me' or something?
Greets from Germany,
Sandra

the 3 in the envolope isn't the same as on the women.. theirs are all smeared to between the eyebrows while the the 3 in the letter is written normally. Also the 3 in the letter is wider than those of the bodies. Posibly suggesting a copycat?

two of the women were wearing diamonds and one had $800 on her. money may be a factor

Im not sure that money was a factor because nothing was taken off the victims. I mean if it were money, wouldn't the killer have at least taken the cash? Cash would be less tracable than jewelry.

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OK. I have read all of these and there are a few things that just pop into the scenario. One, Katie way on down the messages mentioned about the 3 being connected due to Rayleens adoption. Then up a ways, one mentions the greek scenarios of protector of children. Then another from Jeffberg down a little mentions that the number 3 represents also loss of youth and restriction. Rayleen being only 18 had a child at a yound age. And considering it is possible to give birth at 13 most likley her parents would have made her give it up for adoption and from then on kept her at their side. Never trusting her again. Therefore losing her child and losing her childhood. A mother regardless of age can and will do anything to protect or show their love for their child. The 3 may be being used as a personal issue for killer. And there is also Wiccan Lore. "ever mind the rule of three, what ye sends out comes back to thee." Karma is a bad thing.
Anyway, just another way of looking at things.

OK. I have read all of these and there are a few things that just pop into the scenario. One, Katie way on down the messages mentioned about the 3 being connected due to Rayleens adoption. Then up a ways, one mentions the greek scenarios of protector of children. Then another from Jeffberg down a little mentions that the number 3 represents also loss of youth and restriction. Rayleen being only 18 had a child at a yound age. And considering it is possible to give birth at 13 most likley her parents would have made her give it up for adoption and from then on kept her at their side. Never trusting her again. Therefore losing her child and losing her childhood. A mother regardless of age can and will do anything to protect or show their love for their child. The 3 may be being used as a personal issue for killer. And there is also Wiccan Lore. "ever mind the rule of three, what ye sends out comes back to thee." Karma is a bad thing.
Anyway, just another way of looking at things.

The 3 in the letter is a different shape than the 3 on the foreheads, therefore the letter may be a ploy to throw the investigation off course.
It is post marked Beacon Hill, and this to throw suspicion on one of the 2 witnesses residing there, the professor and Mrs. Krakowski.

Because of the hydrocortisone, sodium chloride, and aphids, I would suspect the culprit to be someone with medical knowledge. Dr. Douglas would have access to these substances and maybe he brought the aphids back from the trip to Mexico (they may secrete a disabling compound), worth investigating where they come from. They were placed on the head and he is a neurologist after all.

It would seem that the most logically suspect person would be Amber Mills because of the bloody prints being hers, but the obvious is far too easy; she may have come around, found Leigh Chase dead and then felt her for life signs.

The hair may have been planted by the killer to incriminate Mrs. Krakowski, maybe also the small bootprint. Why only one print? There should have been more.

Because the bullet holes are in almost the same spot on all three bodies, I would think they were shor after death or after they passed out. Maybe they were forced to take sedated or spiked coffee, the compounds found on the bodies.

The single boot print has been bothering me also. The way the body is positioned and the location of the pool of blood makes it look like the killer would have had to go out of his way to get blood on his shoe.

If we're trying to establish a victim profile, it appears none of the three are wearing makeup and are fairly close in age and build.

The foam on the Doctor's neck bothers me also given that she drives a new Mercedes. New Mercedes usually don't shed.

Are we taking Pope at his word re: the herbal concoction. Has a sample of the herbs been tested yet and is there any evidence that it would render him impotent?

Who was the emergency patient Tropos was called out for and why? I'd be curious to find out what they had to say. Could it have been a rouse to lure Tropos to the hospital?

This is in response to irenes comment about the aphids. The aphids are quite common in the Bosten area. They do not harm human in any way but the honeydue that they produce collects around an aphid infestation and it quickly turns into sooty mold which can cause a rash or some kind of skin reaction if exposed. Thats when I started to think that leigh chasa might have been exposed to this mold because of her use of hydrocortisone.

Nester Pope "claims" that he has no sexual urges towards women? That I find hard to belive. Even I have a urge; but, come on. Making a "concoction" by yourself to curb that urge? I am not buyng it one bit.

The 3 aspects of Fate idea holds up. Clotho Lachesis and Atropos, the ages fall in the correct order. The shooter was right handed and slightly taller than two of the victims. The two shorter women had a decrease in elevation from entry to exit wound, the taller woman had an increase in elevation from entry to exit. I guess the shooter was about 5'8" to 5'10".

Anybody looking at the witness Danny Gould being involved? I kinda want more info on him. Anyone could make up an "I heard a shot and then saw a car speeding away" story.

I'm thinking the auto foam on the drs neck could be from where she was shot. Could the bullet have hit the seat of the car and some foam rebounded up onto her? If so, find the car find the bullet?? Just a thought.

Wondering why the doctor had patient files with her. Not usually allowed out of a hospital or office with them.

Wondering why the doctor had patient files with her. Not usually allowed out of a hospital or office with them.

I have some observations, or food for thought. Here goes.
One, the 'surpossed' number 3 does not necessarily look like the number 3 as quite a few of you pointed out. But on the doc the report states that the 3 was put on with a GLOVED hand, that said, the other two 3's must have been put on with the victims blood maybe there should be a smudge either in the vics blood or on the clothes/pools of blood. Maybe getting some type of print from the written '3' or from where the murderer smudged the blood to get it to draw from. the dos 3 also starts and stops, like a backwards c and then continues on look at the comparison of the '3's not the same as the first two. One other thing about the docs murder that is different than the first two..There are bullets lodged in #1 the door jamb at the coffee shop, meaning if that was the bullet that killed coffee shop girl she should have an exit wound.. we sawa no exit wounds on the autopsy, the park girl also had a bullet lodged in the tree, once again no splatter like coffee shop and no exit wound shown us in autopsy of park girl. Now murder 3 doc..no exit wound, no splatter, no bullet recovered outside of body.. different #3 something isn't meshing here with the crime scenes and the autopsies. Lets keep our mind open. About Rayleen and the adoption thing...throwing this out...could the coffee shop girl, or doc be her mother??? Just a twist good luck

Bear with me here, I am still in high school. Okay, Victim 1 - Leigh Chasa owns a coffee shop and was shot in the ally behind it. Victim 2 - Clotilde Eames was a student shot in a park but had a coffee stain on her shirt. Victim 3 - Dr. Amy Tropos was leaving the hospital with no easy link to the other victims. However, coffee shops are always near hospitals and it is not hard to believe that she may have frequented Leigh Chasa's cafe. This links the three women to the shooter who must have seen them there. Also, the shooter had some formal training with a gun to shoot them all in the same place on the chest. He/she could not have been too close because there is no bruising around the entry wound on the three women.

My Dad is a doctor, I will try to get more help from the medical standpoint.

yes i think that would be good

jeff, i agree i think danny should also be a suspect, if there is a connection involving food/coffee shop, i think he could be involved. what i mean is, hes a truck driver for a food services company. couldnt he possibly deliver to the cafe, hospital and the college eames goes to?

I think that there are alot of good ideas floating around here...but one thing that troubles me...

What is the motive? There has to be more than coffee that connects the three women. Something that either we are all missing or something that has not been released yet.

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dev, i know i cant seem to find a logical connection between the three women, let alone a motive for killing them...

Love the whole concept!. Looks great. I had to mention that Dr. Amy Tropos was an employee of mine before she made it to the big time!. Great job we are so proud!

I may have a connection of the three murders. It was of a personal nature the person who did this knew each victim on a personal level or a quick aquaintance of all the victims how else would that persons when and where. as we note all murders took place during the morning hours with no witnesses or none to come forward. The number 3 could be for instance a prelude to each person or it could mean the amount this person thought they could get away with. My gut instinct is too look closer at danny gould he is the most aware of all suroundings in the area being a deliveryman he is also familiar with what time the city gets busy by areas. being a deliveryman you need to know these type things to get your job done.

I agree Carl, and I still think its hinky that his pic and report is shown torn up at the top of the page. Maybe that's a clue, or it could be a red herring.

i noticed that victim #2 had coffe stains on her shirt linking her to victim #1 and victim #3 had ketsup on her scrubs while victim #1 had grease on her apeon but not her shoes. Just thought that was interesting.

I think the Beech Blight Aphids in Coltide Eames hair suggest that her killer may have come through the woods or hidden in the before the attact. I found a pic at http://www.forestryimages.org/images/384x256/0886016.jpg

I think the Beech Blight Aphids in Coltide Eames hair suggest that her killer may have come through the woods or hidden in the before the attact. I found a pic at http://www.forestryimages.org/images/384x256/0886016.jpg

Here iis something about the tire tracks found "The Michelin® Pilot® MXM4™ is an all-season tire designed to enhance the performance characteristics of your luxury touring vehicle. Balancing handling performance with the best ride comfort in our performance touring tires, the Michelin Pilot MXM4 helps deliver superb dry handling, wet and winter traction, and a smooth, quiet ride.

The best ride comfort in our performance touring tires
Excellent all-season performance
Advanced tread compounds for long wear and low noise" also, the Dr. Marten shoe prints tie in here too, Dr. Martens are expensive, the killer had money.

Nigel,
Here's something to think about...the 3's on their forheads,the 3 in the letter ... I don't think that matters, but I found it interesting that in two of the 3 crime scenes the evidence markers had 1/16 as the date what gives??? The murders were in the third months, the letters this month were the second month. So how come the crime scene evidence is dated the1st month ????

wonder if two of the victims were in the 3rds coffee shop at the same time and all three, not related, offended or came across the murderer in some way. and lets not count out that there is a man who refuses to let invesetigators review his file and was stalking one of the victims.. did she see him in the coffee shop and get scared? did the owner ask him to leave? is there a connection in the slightest way that someone is missing?

I don't if if this lead will help but I checked the calender of march 2002.

The first murder was on the 5th which was a tuesday.

The second murder on the 14th and the third murder was on the 21st, which were both on a thursday.

I think could be a connection as well how I am not sure.

The thing that bothers me is the Pig's Blood. I wouldn't imagine that pig blood is that easy to come by. I thought of the food service connection, but they don't deliver bloody pig parts, do they? The second concern, is why pig's blood, and not the victim's blood? I thought of the University, biology lab, dissecting pigs, I have never done it but wouldn't think there would be much blood there. It's as if the killer wanted to mark the victim in a distinct way, to let whoever he/she was working for know that it was him.

I must have been dreaming about this, cause now I don't see anything where it says pigs blood? Sorry everybody.

well i think the next step is to look at the dmv for all suspects registered vehicles.. try to get a warrant or just go say hi to get a look at them..i think the fibers are more important than the #3 at this point

They all have cursive looking z's on their forhead.

Ah ha, I wasn't dreaming, the letter was written in pig's blood. In many countries pigs are considered unclean. Maybe it's not a three, but a letter/symbol in a foreign language

ok, like i said earlier, I think everyone needs to take a break from the "3" and concentrate on other clues. like the fibers, finding a connection..etc. if you concentrate on just one clue, you will miss all the others and the case will be lost.!

also, one vic has a daughter who is 5 yrs old.. could that be the daughter one of the suspects gave up for adoption?

First of all, what are Beech Blite aphids or however you spell it?

Okay I have a theory which might be kinda dumb but bear with me. What if the killer ran into these women by chance but they all offended him in some way. Say for instance, he was at the coffee house where Leigh Chasa works and she accidently spills hot coffee on him. So that made him/her mad. And since Clotilde Earnes worked as a research assistant, maybe the killer volunteered to have something tested on him/her and that made him/her violently ill and had to go to the hospital and was treated by Dr. Amy Tropos. And maybe she had to use a needle and that hurt the killer and got him/her even more mad. Sometimes people just snap, especially if they have a mental disorder or something that would cause someone to kill, like maybe the killer is bipolar. This was just a thought that popped into my head about why these specific three women were targeted. What does everyone else think?

ok, one last opinion on the "3" then i will give it up.. i think the 3 is a red herring. the letter doesnt match the vic's 3's at all not the style of print nor the blood used. why change penmanship and blood style for one letter? if the killer was smart enough to plan all 3 murders, then wouldnt he at least be "smart" enough to keep all styles similar?

Lynn, you have it right the dates on the evidence tags show Jan (01) but they show the wrong year! they show 05, the crimes are supposed to be in 03 why the date difference?

as you have already noticed the victems all have numeral 3 on their heads, and were all shot on the right, above the breast. Looking at these similarities there is most likely 1 killer.

as you have already noticed the victems all have numeral 3 on their heads, and were all shot on the right, above the breast. Looking at these similarities there is most likely 1 killer.

I thoght this is so interesting I love puzzles like this!!!I can NOT wait till there is more information tomorro so I can get a better idea of what is going on maybe the three is not a month but something special to the killer.

I don't think that's a 3 on their foreheads. I think it's a symbol of some sort. Seems like I've seen it somewhere before but darned if I can find it anywhere. Hmmmmm.

The 3 in the letter isn't anything like the "3s" on the ladies' foreheads. The "3s" are more snakelike on the foreheads, the letter more curved and definitely a 3.

Need more info, Nigel.

Were there surveillance cameras anywhere? Did the blood on the letter match the blood of any of the victims? Is there a map showing the geographic relationship of the 3 murders to their homes as well as the murder sites? Information about the victims hangouts, habits, etc.? Any speculation as to what kind of glove the murderer wore? Interviews with any of the victim's close friends/confidantes?

What kind of car, if any, does Rayleen Mills own/drive? Nestor Pope? Spouses of the married victims?

Where was Professor Cowley at the time of Ms. Eames' murder?

Any blood spatter on the tree at Ms. Eames' site? Pic is not real clear.

Possible age of the shallow cut on the back of Ms. Eames' neck?

Interesting that the autopsy results on Ms. Eames' fails to mention the “shallow cut on back of neck”.

Where was Professor Cowley at the time of Ms. Eames' murder?

Any blood spatter on the tree at Ms. Eames' site? Pic is not real clear.

Possible age of the shallow cut on the back of Ms. Eames' neck?

Interesting that the autopsy results on Ms. Eames' fails to mention the “shallow cut on back of neck”.

Where was Professor Cowley at the time of Ms. Eames' murder?

Any blood spatter on the tree at Ms. Eames' site? Pic is not real clear.

Possible age of the shallow cut on the back of Ms. Eames' neck?

Interesting that the autopsy results on Ms. Eames' fails to mention the “shallow cut on back of neck”.

Clotilde had two aphids in her hair where did they come from??

The killer was standing further away from the doctor, than the other two women. the bullet tells us that tale. the doctors bullet lodged in her rib. the other two women had an entrance and exit wound.

nester pode eliminated himself by not sexualy assulting the three women. sex offenders rape then kill. they cannot control those urges.

I believe that all three women new their killer, otherwise I don't believe that they would have been shot point blank. I also believe that all three met their killer in the cafe that Luis Fuentes worked at... in fact I think it was Mr. Fuentes, because he eluded the police when they went to talk to him.
Did you notice if he (Luis Fuentes) happened to be wearing Dr. Martens? Did you have any probable cause to search Mr. Fuentes' residence?
If Mr. Fuentes wasn't wearing the Dr. Martens I think that you'll find them in his place of residence. Did you happen to notice what size shoe he wears? If I calculated right, it's a size 10 shoe that left the bloody foot print. I hope my speculations, and calculatiions will help. Also, the bloody fingerprints on the right wrist made me think... Was Rayleen trying to save Leah, or making sure she was dead? Please let me know if this helps.
Thank for the opportunity.
Dee Dee

I had another thought... I think the aphids did indeed come from the killer.

Just to let you know that if you watch the news you'll see that not all sex offenders murder their victims after they rape the victims, most of the time, but not always.

Have the police performed a handwriting comparison on the "3" sent in the mail with the "3"s written on the victims. I know that I am just "eyeballing" it, but there seems to be a difference. Could a witness have sent it? Maybe to draw attention to the crimes to re-open them? Where would someone get pig's blood anyway? Also, how do we know that there are not two guilty parties and not one???
I stand by first assessment, the third victim is the key to this whole mess.
Food for thought...

Maybe it's just me but the first and second victims seem to have been moved and the third not. I also find it curious that when the second victim supposedly crawled ten feet she landed on her back. This seems odd. And the bullets... They seem to be straight through, then shot up and then shot down.
I have also thought about the tires. Yes the tires would work on a Camry but what about someone else? Could Dr. Amy's husband have a car that uses these tires or Leigh's husband?

Maybe it's just me but the first and second victims seem to have been moved and the third not. I also find it curious that when the second victim supposedly crawled ten feet she landed on her back. This seems odd. And the bullets... They seem to be straight through, then shot up and then shot down.
I have also thought about the tires. Yes the tires would work on a Camry but what about someone else? Could Dr. Amy's husband have a car that uses these tires or Leigh's husband?

It might not be a 3 but a handwriting Z

just found the site am going to have some fun been a honorary police officer

Though serial killers like to keep a reminder of their accomplishments.This case is old and if this person has been implicated in another crime,it could be that evidence to these murders has been destroyed.A serial killer doesn't stop at three.Therefore I think It was three murders to cover up one.Look at the person who had the most to gain in any one instance.This is just a quick view till I check out the info.Back with more later

It could be a medical shorthand symbol instead of a number 3. Which would concer with the third victim being the main focus.

Why is Dr. Tropos smiling? I think she knew her killer.

I agree with carlos, i think it is slightly weird that Dr. Tropos is smiling. It is possible that she may have know her killer. Could it be that she was some how mixed up with the murderer. There has to be a connection wetween all three ladies and what is the point of putting a number three on their head. Could it be a sign or maybe a signature to say the killer has done what it wen to do?

I agree with carlos, i think it is slightly weird that Dr. Tropos is smiling. It is possible that she may have know her killer. Could it be that she was some how mixed up with the murderer. There has to be a connection wetween all three ladies and what is the point of putting a number three on their head. Could it be a sign or maybe a signature to say the killer has done what it wen to do?

Great website. Flashback to "Murder in Town X"--tv show a few summers back on another network.
Regarding the case, I believe the Fates theory is solid. Has anyone else noticed that it's the first two victims first names and the third's last name that allude to the Fates? Maybe this isn't important, but I'd think the killer would be more uniform since him/her uses such symbolism.
I also wanted to add that in order to profile the killer or killers we should first examine our initial assumptions. Happy hunting!

Woody oh woody save him . god bless tivo check out his hunky bod...

While it may be inconsequential there is a discrepancy between the post mark or Feb. 05/05 and the day of receipt Feb. 02/05. How could it've been received 3 days before it was postmarked? Also on the envelope the number "0" is replaced with a lower case letter 'o'. Might be of some significance... it also looks as if this was typed on a typewriter and from that we might conclude that the sender/killer? (if one in the same) might have a broken '0' key on the typewriter which would force him/her to use the lower case 'o' instead. If we can find the typewriter we may have found the killer... if not at least a good connection to him/her.

Ummm...I hate to sound stupid but I'm new here. How do we "solve" the case?
Email me if any one knows.

I think that we should look for simular cases because if this is a serial killer there should be some kind of reocord with female victim. Maybe an assult or an attempted rape.

Hi All;

My theory is that the 3rd vic's husband the "doctor" comitted all 3 murders. The clue about the tire tracks indicate a more expensive vehicle, at the 3rd vic' crime seen there was a shoe print that was "unisex" which is worn by doctors & medical personnel. Is he left handed? which would be why the vics wher shot in the left chest or the fact that as a doctor he knew that the bullet would do a lot of damage to the heart which would kill them almost instantly.

Sure they had just celebrated their 8th anniversary and had gone away to celebrate, but was that part of his plan? He was off duty when she was on duty, so he had the opportunity.


The coffee shop is the place that links the women together and probably the 3rd vic husband. The 1st vic co owned it, the 2nd vic had a coffee stain on her shirt, the 3rd vic was a doctor who probably would have stopped in to get coffee on her way to work, as her husband probably did also.

As far as the number "3", after each vic was killed the killer used their own blood to write the number. I think from the get go he had planned to kill "3" women so it would seem like a serial killer was on the loose and his putting the number "3" on their foreheads was to make sure the police would know the murders were linked which would re-enforce the serial killer theory.

Well, thats my theory and I'm sticking to it.....LOL

Looking forward to the answer.

PS: Love the show, never miss it, even tape it if I'm not going to be home!

Nestor Pope said that he was with a prostitute at the time of one of the murders. He said that he doesn't have sexual urges due to his "concoction". This "concoction" rendered him impodent. Why was he with the prostitute in the first place, if he didn't have the sexual urges?

It seems to me that the killer either feels like he's smarter than everyone else (taunting the ME's office 3 years after the fact) or seriously craves attention, or both. Maybe he was seriously put out that the case went cold when he went to such great lengths to make it such a puzzle. If in his mind this is a great accomplishment, then he would be terribly offended that the investigation stopped. That's why he sent the letter.

It might not even be a 3... it could be a zodiac sign...and the sign for Scorpio looks like an "M" with a tail.

Yeah i agree i am a scorpio and that does look like the sodiac sign but like jorden said y only three vic's that is a very good question

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All the vics had food stains on their clothing. Don't know if that is a link, but I noticed it. Dr.-ketchup stain, Clotilde- coffee stain, Leigh- grease stain

Notice on Dr. Amy Tropos's crime scene photos the blood is by the tire, whereby, her head is about a foot away from the tire.

Ok, maybe not a foot away but a few inches. It is definaly not a copy cat cuz all the 3s look alike

Viola,witness, said she saw a man in his 30s with a mustache drive the WHITE car. Danny ,"witness", fits this description, but said it was a light blue or green car.There is no way you can get a white car mixed up with a green car. My money is on Danny.

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